Atheists have got it wrong

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I’ve been thinking a lot lately. It’s not really my fault, though. I’ve stumbled across a few blogs written by atheists and–purely out of curiosity, I swear–I’ve read a few of their posts. Most of the points they made were, to be honest, right on the mark. The ensuing discussions in the comment sections, however, made me want to pull my hair out. I decided I’d write a little about my perspective on it, but found myself up against almost insurmountable problems.

I’m relatively new to atheism. I’ve only stopped believing in God within about the past twelve months. Because of that, I still have a fairly fresh memory of my previous absolute certainty of God’s existence and His glorious nature. At the same time, though, I feel so stupid for having believed it. Was I really that gullible? So I understand that people who feel compelled to defend God are acting out of complete sincerity and are doing so only because they are deluded and don’t know the truth. Which, in turn, is exactly what they think about those of us who no longer buy the story. And the comments on the blogs kept revolving around this central issue: “I’ve got the truth and you completely refuse to see it.” The rebuttal to which, of course, was: “No, I‘ve got the truth and you completely refuse to see it.” Is there no way to find common ground? Is there no approach to this issue that works for both sides? And then I realized: the atheists have got it wrong.

As I’ve been trying to write this blog post, I found I kept falling prey to a couple of tendencies. First was the urge to be snarky. I mean, all the ridiculous things that I used to believe? They are so obvious, how can you not poke fun at someone who believes them? Take Pastafarianism. From the perspective of an atheist, it clearly demonstrates the utter ridiculousness of belief in any mythology, and in particular that of Christianity. Yet far from resoundingly refuting the claims of believers through counterexample, it actually makes the discussion more difficult. Despite the fact that religious believers sincerely hold beliefs that are completely deserving of being mocked, mocking them, unfortunately, doesn’t actually accomplish anything. Well, besides being fun and probably a little therapeutic. It’s tempting. But ultimately ineffective.

The second tendency is to try to resort to logic. If proof by absurdity doesn’t work, it seems reasonable that people could be swayed by good old fashioned logic. Again, though, people see what they want to see, and accept as true things which tend to corroborate their previously held beliefs and reject anything that doesn’t. If you want proof, do yourself a favor and spend an hour watching this video. Oh. The favor? Handcuff yourself first so you don’t bruise your forehead from repeated facepalms. (Consider yourself warned.) And watch it not for the information it holds, but for the way that people insulate themselves from anything that might make them change their beliefs. And after you’ve watched it, ask yourself: if I came into this video believing the exact opposite of what I believe, would my frustration not have been for the stupidity and blindness of the person I had previously found myself agreeing with?

So if logic doesn’t help people change their minds, and if we can’t make fun of people who hide from uncomfortable truths, how can we shape our dialog with these people? I think that’s the first place atheists get it wrong. We’re asking the wrong questions.

It’s kind of ironic. God didn’t create Man. Man created God. Yet nobody gets it. Religious people won’t admit it, and atheists, while only too happy to declare it, don’t fully appreciate its ramifications. You see, even atheists get evolution wrong.

I’ve often thought of the short-sightedness of those who ignore–to their peril (ha! I’ve always wanted to say that)–the power of evolution. Atheists, of all people, should embrace evolution. They should recognize that God is as much a product of evolution as is Man. Just as various life forms, each with its own strengths and weaknesses, competed over the course of billions of years to produce increasingly effective life forms, once Man hit the scene and developed language, various god memes, each with its own strengths and weaknesses, competed over the course of hundreds of thousands of years to produce increasingly effective god memes. What we have today are the god memes that have been most effective for the environment. We have logic-resistant god memes.

But evolution isn’t finished.

We’ve found ourselves thrust into the middle of a very interesting story, and in our short-sightedness, we sometimes forget that we aren’t at the end of the story. We think that we, as homo sapiens, are the ultimate end of evolution. We call ourselves the highest evolved form of life, the pinnacle of evolution. But that’s only true today. Evolution isn’t finished. We’re not the end product. We’re likely only a middling, mediocre player in what will someday be a far more advanced species than we are. And there’s a very good possibility that we are not even among the ancestors of that future species. (Dinosaurs, anyone? They not only lost their place on the top of the animal kingdom, but their best-known descendants today? Chickens. Chickens! [Okay, okay. Maybe not.]) Homo sapiens, despite our arrogance, may not be the missing link for what evolution comes up with next. How’s that for some perspective?

And not only are we not the pinnacle of evolution, evolution’s job isn’t to reach that pinnacle. Evolution doesn’t produce the most ideal design. It produces increasingly effective designs. But effective at what? At reproducing. At surviving. Evolution doesn’t guarantee intelligence. It doesn’t guarantee strength. Those things are nice when they result in a better chance at surviving and reproducing, but they are by no means requirements. In fact, if increased intelligence or increased strength make reproducing and surviving less likely, then the evolutionary process will decrease the prevalence of such traits in the next generation.

The same is true for the god meme. Atheists, so smug to have debunked the myths around God, are only serving as the necessary predatory forces that cull the weak god memes, leaving room for the stronger to evolve, to grow, to become bigger and more powerful, more resistant to attack.

Here’s where atheists get it wrong. And conversely, where religion gets it right.

1. Atheists rely too much on the infallibility of rationality. Sure, it’s reasonable to be reasonable. But don’t forget that the arguments for God involve actively ignoring reason. Faith is a choice, not an argument. We think that if we can show that it’s highly unlikely for god to exist, that reasonable people will conclude with us that he doesn’t. But the god memes that have survived have developed a certain immune system, a defense mechanism against that approach. Believers are taught that their faith will be tested by arguments that sound reasonable to Man, but that God requires a higher faith. Yeah. Some individuals will still yield to reason. But the god meme itself has largely shrugged off that attack.

Reason vs. faith? I can’t pick a clear winner.

2. Atheists act rationally on an individual level, but irrationally on a larger scale. Atheists believe in evolution, yet fail to exploit its very mechanisms, and ignore that the religiously minded are walking lock-step with evolution’s key power. Evolution doesn’t give preference to the most optimal design. It gives preference to the most effective. The life forms of the future will share many traits of the life forms that pass on their genes. So what do atheists do? They are rational. They look at the world as it is and say, “You know. I don’t want to have any children. Or, at most, one or two.” In a world where most children adopt the faith of their parents, why does it surprise us that rationalism doesn’t win out over procreation? Evolution is agnostic to idealism. All else being equal, it will always favor the group that preaches “don’t use birth control” over the group that decides that having offspring is overrated.

Birth control vs. rampant breeding? The evolutionary results are clearly in favor of the latter.

Atheists are fighting the wrong battles. They don’t need to argue for rationalism. They need to get busy having more kids. Kids who share their genes, and hence their predisposition to rationalism.

Wow. It almost sounds like I’m advocating atheists have more sex….

Okay. Yes. I suppose I am. Hot heathen atheist sex. And more of it. Atheists, consider this your call to action. Do your part to help the movement. Stop screwing around with endless arguing, and start screwing around with endless, um, screwing around.

After all, isn’t that what your Christian friends already assume you’re doing anyway?

Oops. I guess I succumbed to just a touch of snarkiness after all.

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41 responses to “Atheists have got it wrong”

  1. connordefehr says :

    There are people who are drawn to Him and there are those who aren’t. It’s not up to Christians to draw atheists (Matthew 19:11, 13:11, 13:17), we are told simply preach the gospel and if the person doesn’t accept it, ‘shake the dust from our feet’ (Matthew 10:14). Jesus never told disciples to go forth and defend Him.

  2. thesauros says :

    it seems reasonable that people could be swayed by good old fashioned logic.”

    You mean for example, believing:
    . That material things can begin to exist without an external cause, even though that has never been observed, tested or verified?

    . That everything material can come from literally nothing material without a cause, even though that has never been observed, tested or verified?

    . That an infinite regress of cause is tenable, even though that has been scientifically refuted?

    . That the material infinite is tenable, even though that has been scientifically refuted?

    You mean that kind of logic? The kind required in order to be an atheist?

  3. violetwisp says :

    Excellent post! Hilarious even. But you make a good point, we do have a tendency to see this as the end of evolution and not see the sneaky next generation religions round the corner. I’m going to try a re-blog, which I’ll undoubtedly make a mess of, as I’ve never done it before …

    • the frogman says :

      Am I to understand, then, that you’re committed to showing your solidarity and will consequently do your part to better the odds for the next generation of atheists?

      • violetwisp says :

        Not in terms of breeding. But I will do my best to ensure that the weaker forms of Christianity survive, so that a ‘superbug’ version doesn’t evolve!

  4. violetwisp says :

    Reblogged this on violetwisp and commented:
    I’ve never done a reblog, but this definitely deserves some careful consideration …

    • the frogman says :

      Wow. I’ve never been reblogged before. And after only a couple of dates. I don’t know whether to be flattered or creeped out. 😉

  5. thunderhawkbolt says :

    First of all, don’t knock yourself for having been a Christian – intelligence and indoctrination aren’t connected at all. Now for the rest, I don’t think we need to worry about the Quiverfull’s out producing us in the children department, because rationality isn’t necessarily bred into kids. I was taught to be a very fundamentalist Christian by two very fundamentalist parents and I’m an atheist.

    The really good news is: we don’t have the same impetus as theists to make converts. If someone doesn’t seen the lunacy in their beliefs, it really doesn’t matter. The only time we have to stand strong is when they attempt to force their beliefs into the laws of our respective countries.

  6. makagutu says :

    This is indeed interesting and more so the closing lines and call to duty!

  7. geneticfractals says :

    Whenever man erects a system, you can be sure it is flawed. But his intentions are often highly defensible, whether good or bad. I like your post because it reminds us that Atheism as a ‘movement’ has its own flaws such as embracing reason as a higher goal, when reason is a human invention in itself. Nature isn’t reasonable at all but it would hard to argue against nature.

    Is there such as thing as a-ism? The absence of belief in any system? The absence of belief itself even.The absence of the need to make categorical statements? It might be the best position to take to avoid the disappointment of finding flaws in a system one subscribes to.

    Having said that, fundamentalist religions deserve all the flack they get from atheists, including the use of reason as a weapon against the weapon of faith.

    We need those counterweights and balance as a starting point for absence of beliefs.

  8. Clare Flourish says :

    It depends who you are talking to. Pastafarianism or the teapot orbiting Jupiter are good ways to reassure your own side. And- sometimes the memes are good for the carriers, symbiotic rather than parasitic.

    • the frogman says :

      Good point. In surviving species of life or memes, there are often multiple factors that influence survival. Being a symbiotic parasite can be a successful strategy.

  9. livelysceptic says :

    I like your article. I do feel I have to defend Pastafarianism here. Not because I’m a believer, but because it looks like you think the thing has been thought up to mock christians. It hasn’t. If you read: http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/
    you’ll see that it was originally a reaction to an attempt to claim as much school time for intelligent design as for the teaching of evolution.
    From what you write about that, you might see this made sense at the time. 🙂

    • the frogman says :

      The link I provided also details the historical origins of Pastafarianism. Heaven forbid I should remain ignorant of their worthy goals or the organic nature of their growth.

  10. john zande says :

    Great post! Agree and disagree. Mocking fundamentalists is necessary. They need to be ridiculed because they are interfering bags of regression. Now unfortunately there’ll always be some kind of nonsense, but as Violet said above, the job is o not let it become a superbug ever again. In Australia its now commonly held (and spoken quite freely) that in 2 generations religion will be essentially removed.

  11. manojkumar0690 says :

    Great blog,but I just have an issue in saying “atheist ‘believe’ in evolution” because it doesn’t matter who believe it or not as it is an undeniable “fact !!! I am more of a polite atheist than a militant one.If u have time pls check this out http://myworldmyunderstanding.wordpress.com/

    • the frogman says :

      My mistake. I shouldn’t categorically state what atheists believe, since the only “requirement” for being an atheist is what we don’t believe. I think the tendency, though, is for atheists to believe in, if not the current scientific consensus, at least the scientific method. But I don’t speak for all atheists.

  12. fabryhistory says :

    The stereotype is true: I chose to have one kid and then I got my tubes tied. I should of made more of them – the one I have is brilliant.
    Just curious, have you seen the film Idiocracy? It’s a comedy about this very subject.

  13. night owl says :

    I didn’t know I was forwarding the cause of atheism when I procreated, but I did teach my children to be critical thinkers and ask lots of questions. They rejected their father’s religion and rejected my amorphous spirituality and – voila – two new atheists for the flock!

    • the frogman says :

      Proof that sometimes good intentions are indeed enough. Ahhh. The power of critical thinking.

      • night owl says :

        I love critical thinking and inquiry into self. Questioning the truth of my own beliefs about self, others, the world, has become fairly automatic for me, but it sometimes leaves me feeling I don’t know anything anymore.

        Perhaps that’s a good place to start.

        • the frogman says :

          That’s a beautiful place to start. Where would we be if most people didn’t assume that they already had all the answers? We might actually look at things objectively.

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